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weekend." we are still here. prosecutors carefully laid out the plans to put donald trump on trial, and those plans have nearly all been appended with less than eight months until election day. politico said it's conceivable trump could face a jury in two or three of the cases before the year is out. each day that passes makes cramming multiple trials into 2024 unlikely. we are starting a lookat what comes next in georgia, florida, new york, and washington, d.c., as the clock keeps ticking towards november. joining us is msnbc legal analyst mary mccord, the form from the justice department and cohost of an amazing podcast. also with us is palm beach state attorney dave aronberg. perhaps we need to take the party to miami next time. >> right now here with mary in washington, and thank you for being here. if you can just do us sort of a

scene setting for us about where the state of play in the cases are, my contention has been for some time that donald trump was going to use this system to effectively manipulate it into doing the jungle gym thing, jumping all over itself, and with the delay, delay, delay. in my estimation, tell me if i'm wrong, he's achieved that goal. looks like none of these cases are going to land anywhere near starting, let alone completing by the november presidential election? >> i mean it's an interesting strategy. he hasn't really won the motions. east basically lost on a lot of the arguments, but he's won on delay. he keeps slowing things down, and you know, i do still think there's a chance for one or two trials to start, but it's also quite possible they won't. so in georgia, obviously, we

had -- we don't have a trial state set at all. we have had the prosecutorial change dramatically because the lead special assistant d.a. who was going to be leading the trial has now come off the case. we have got willis still on it, but they have to make adjustments to go to trial, and we don't have a trial date there. in florida, the judge did rule on one of two motions heard last week, and she ruled against donald trump on a motion to dismiss the indictment on the grounds it was basically too vague, the charges of espionage act violations, the charges for the mishandling and retention of national defense information, she denied on the motion to dismiss on the grounds they are too vague applying to mr. trump, but denial without prejudice. in denying that, never set a trial date. we are in limbo if there will

be a trial date. in new york, we thought we were going to be starting trial a week from tomorrow, and now because of a very last-minute dump of documents by the southern district of new york, which we can get into, the judge has said, we are going to take at least 30 days before this trial will start, alvin bragg, the district attorney agreed to that with the late document dump, he agreed there should be a recess, but it's possible the 30 days he has not said definitely it will start in 30 days. a hearing march 25th, the original date for the start of trial, not just on when to start the trial date, but whether to grant mr. trump's motion to dismiss the case. the january 6th case is on hold pending the supreme court hearing. >> in other words, trump won.

>> i refuse to say that. >> he won his delays. >> i have to say, friends, every time the time line changes, i worry foremost for democracy, secondarily for the graphics department who has to express visually the complicated time line. i want to pull up politico's questions, who could go first? what is taking so long in florida? will a new york delay benefit the florida prosecution? could the georgia trial take place before november? let's talk about florida. dave aronberg, what's taking so long? >> good to be with you in the 305. this is my hometown. peter novarro will soon be living here in an orange jump suit. looking forward to that. what is taking so long, judge

cannon is new and has given in to the delays. i will not say there's corruption, but she is new, and because of a law like sepa, i would never expected this trial to occur before the election. it's a shame. i think that the mar-a-lago documents case is the strongest against donald trump, but least likely to be heard before the election. only two cases that have a shot, the one in new york, the hush money case, and the one in d.c., because they both have judges who ain't fooling around. they want it to go. >> talking in the next block, mary, about the two cases, but i want to make sure we talk about georgia here and about the classified documents case. on the question of georgia, as you said, no trial date. the question, of course, even if there was a trial date, and even if it was set for august, you had nathan wade before he resigned saying it would probably be the type of trial

that would take four months, taking you well past election day, and for folks watching and asking the specific question, which is, will any of the cases be decided before election day? what does that time line now look like? >> i think with respect to the georgia case, that's not the one, i think, we can expect to come to a conclusion before the election. >> why not? because previously people said it was. break it down, man. >> for one reason, obviously we don't have a date. assuming we do, it's not just a single defendant case. it's mr. trump and like 14 other people, or 15 i guess. 19 originally indicted. four have pled guilty. for every witness, cross- examination by the attorneys for all of those folks unless she breaks it into smaller chunks. there's been discussions of breaking it into pieces, but no decisions made on that. we are just talking about a trial taking a long time. as i said a few minutes ago, when you just removed sort of

the lead special d.a. who led the grand jury investigation and probably knows the facts, maybe better than anyone else in the office, someone else is going to have to get up to speed. that's entirely possible to do. i was a prosecutor for a long time, particularly if it doesn't start until august, there's time to do that. we have not heard anything serious about the august trial date, and the other thing to keep in mind is all of the judges, you know any case that goes, it's going to impact any other case's time frame. judges who are coming second or third are going to want to make sure that mr. trump and his attorneys have adequate time to prepare for each trial. if, for example, the new york trial starts in mid-april, let's say it goes three weeks, and let's say then that the supreme court denies immunity, sending the january 6th case back down to the judge, and not only as she said i will give you the full 88 days you would have had originally prepared,

but she has to contend with arguments from mr. trump because they spent so much time on the new york case, they need extra time to prepare for the d.c. case, and each case sort of like ends up having an impact on the next, and particularly when so many of the trial dates are in play. if they had all been set, then everyone would have known just what to plan for, but necessarily and part of the strategy is to, you know, delay each one of those, causing the domino effect on all of the rest. >> well, i just -- the first politico question is who will go first? who do we think is going to go first? >> right. that's a question they think is important for everybody out there, and as this thing has now stacked up to symone's point, which case ends up hitting and landing first in the whole thing? >> i think it's still most likely to be the new york case, the election interference case based on payments to prevent

stormy daniels from speaking out about the sexual affair with donald trump during the 2016 election. this one, back two elections ago to what happened here. if the judge does not dismiss the case, and i don't think he's going to dismiss the case based on what we know now by the motions that have to do with discovery, then we are looking at an april start. there's no way that the d.c. january 6th case can start that early. the supreme court is not hearing argument in the case until april 25th . so the most likely, i think is the new york case, and then i think the second most likely is the d.c. january 6th case. >> dave aronberg. >> go ahead, alicia. >> i'm sorry, in the middle of this, the possibility of democrats inviting michael cohen to testify at the march

25th hearing and hunter biden is denying to attend. what do you think of that strategy? >> be careful. he's the key witness in the new york case. you don't want to do anything to jeopardize the case. i agree with mary, that's the case most likely to go first. the judge wants it to go, and he just issued a 30-day delay. trump's team wanted a 90-day delay. i think it's going to go. there could be justice before the election. as far as calling michael cohen as a witness, he's a great witness, forthright, and he's limited on what he can say because of the trial. >> dave you're sticking with me, mary, too. we need to discuss the future of trump's legal case and so much more. we will continue after a quick break. stay with us. uick brea k. stay with us. ancome to you to fix it. >> tech vo: this customer was enjoying her morning walk. we texted her when we were on our way. and she could track us and see exactly when we'd arrive.

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because we cannot overstate how important it is. donald trump warning there will no longer be elections if he loses in november, and he defended the january 6th rioters calling them hostages. mary and dave are back with us. >> dave, i want to drill down on that. i think it's important and critically important for people to understand exactly when you have a former president referring to insurrectionists as hostages, and what is your take here as someone who has worked with criminal defendants and been on the side of, you know, making sure that, you know, no one is above the law, and that everyone is held accountable for their behavior. how do you assess the moment when you have a president saying the things that donald trump continues to say, not just about the election itself,

but then, furthering and amping up the charges talking about the people who committed the crime in front of our own eyes m how the victims, patriots, and somehow how they are the ones we should be admiring and supporting? >> it's horrifying to call them hostages. some were domestic terrorists, and some were convicted of seditious conspiracy, and to say the traitors should be just pardoned because trump is campaigning on that is appalling, and something we need to discuss more. a lot of us are whistling past the graveyard or chalking it up to trump being trump. can you imagine if donald trump campaigned on pardoning domestic terrorists? you would not be able to hear the end of it. with trump, it's trump being trump, but it should be discussed every day. this is the future of the democracy at stake. >> i will also say, go ahead,

michael. >> i was going to push a little more on that. prosecutors, people in the criminal justice system, what -- how do you think they take that? what do you think -- i asked director burton in the last hour, how folks in the dod, fbi, and federal agencies, how they hear this, and how do your fellow prosecutors and colleagues in law enforcement, trying to protect and defend against the very thing that donald trump is seemingly embracing? >> they are appalled by the rhetoric, but republicans have branded themselves the party of law enforcement and back the blue. for a lot of americans it does not resinate that you have the former president running again on a platform of pardoning the insurrectionists, people who attack law enforcement. you are undoing the rule of law.

as a prosecutor, it's demoralizing when you see the work you do to convict something of seditious conspiracy, not easy to do, someone campaigning and saying we will pardon the folks. i'm disgusted by it. i wish more people were talking about it. kudos to you for talking about it. it should never be forgotten as we vote in november. >> no trump amnesia here. mary mccord, those were not the only things he said last night, calling letitia james a low life saying d.a. bragg was in his office to get trump and made fun of fani willis' name and relationship with nathan wade, but he tried to brush all of the cases off as, quote, local cases. right? ignoring the fact that all of these cases have national impact. these are not local cases.

yes, the venue may be georgia, but he tried to undermine the national election. >> that's right. even the new york case involving the payments to stormy daniels, a type of election interference in the 2016 election, to keep the information that would have been damaging to him as a candidate, to keep that from the public, there's a national significance. he was a presidential candidate and didn't want the information to come out. as you indicated, the georgia case is a rico case about the effort, focused on the efforts in georgia, but the effort to overturn the vote of the people in georgia, which, of course, would have been significant to the ultimate count, and you know, the ultimate electoral ballot count, involving the election in 2020. local venues like you said, but two points to come back to the danger of the comments, and

each thing you just read, each criticism and attack on the prosecutors, we know what happens after these attacks. >> right. >> there's threats, and there may be threats not just over the phone or on social media, but sometimes there's physical threats, people who do travel and do try to harm the prosecutors, harm prosecutors in their offices, and this is dangerous. i mean we have had multiple prosecutions now of people making threats against prosecutors and judges and others, and the other point want to make, going back to the comments of hostages, being convicted and many serving time for their role in the attack on the capitol on january 6th, not just prosecutors who are disgusted and others who are disgusted. judges, judges in the district of columbia who have been overseeing the cases now, ever since they started to be

brought in 2021, republican- appointed judges, trump appointed judges, democrat appointed judges, they have been united in how serious these crimes have been and how serious they must be taken, and they have also had numerous of them recently speaking out with alarm about this rhetoric and about political prisoners and hostages, and judge lamberth, a reagan appointee, speaking out, saying that this narrative, this false narrative about hostages, this is infecting, and it's wrong, number one, and it's just false, and it is, you know, getting embedded in our history in a way that is damaging to democracy. >> the stakes are here now, and they are in the future. mary and dave, thank you both so much. be sure to listen to prosecuting donald trump the podcast cohosted by mary. this week is about the delay

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there are key issues such as democracy that are bigger than any one candidate or policy disagreement. >> i know that democracy will be saved under biden, and we can start the republican party anew once the era of trump is over. >> former republican congressman david jolly and msnbc political expert alexi mccammond joining us. >> it's nice to see you both. david, you have mike pence saying he will not vote for donald trump, not to say he will endorse president biden. we can talk about that, but to have the everyday americans also saying, i voted for him, and i get it. i'm one of you, but i'm not going to do it again. if you had to weight those, who carries more weight? >> we are all in the world of

permission structure. the most relatable voices are the voices you just said. therefore i will vote for joe biden. that is absolutely what is missing from elected republican leaders. we are eight years into this. there's no learning curve. if you're not willing to say the answer is joe biden, that's just not good enough. if your resistance to donald trump is on tax policy, i get it, okay, you're not going to get for joe biden. if you're suggesting he's a threat to democracy, unfit for office, and dangerous, the only office is to say therefore vote for joe biden, otherwise, you risk the voters staying home or voters flirting with the third party candidate that could hurt joe biden. >> michael, yesterday you said much of the same and said you were greedy not just seeing mike pence come out against trump, but the biden endorsement, too, our friend david jolly, equally

greed. >> that's my boy. you know, i love the clip, the sound bite where the young man says now i'm voting for biden. we saw in 2016 trump voters coming out against him in 2020. since that time, what happened? he got more votes, right? that year in 2020, are you seeing from your reporting any signs that this, what we saw captured in the video is actually going to make this time different with voters? >> i mean obviously it remains to be seen. this election is much more like 2016 than 2020 for a number of reasons. i agree with david jolly on both points, it's not enough to not just endorse trump. you have to say biden is the choice if you care about democracy, but the number of folks in the electorate who don't like both has fluctuated.

2016, 17%, and trump won by a large margin. in 2020 only 3% of the electorate, and biden won them. now this year 19% to 20% of the electorate. for the folks seeing the videos, if you do not say like that man said, i'm voting for biden, i think you're encouraging people who don't like either to stay home. you're not sort of offering the alternative choice. you're just saying you voted for trump in the past, and he's not good enough this time. good luck. >> alicia, that's the key part of this, offering the ramp, the permission structure, okay -- it's hard for some republicans, baked into the infrastructure of the gop, and to make the leap, you need the line of encouragement saying it's okay, it's okay. you're not necessarily just voting for the man. you're voting for the country, and that's the important part of this. >> it was notable to me, and we have pulled apart a lot of the

former president's speech from last night, but there's not one sound i'm playing. i will paraphrase it for you. i thought it was worth discussing. as you know, we have president biden and vice president kamala harris saying they worry about the future of american democracy and elections if donald trump should be reelected, and he's out there trying to make the same argument to his base saying i don't think you're going to have another election in this country if we don't win this election. i don't think we are going to have another election or certainly not an election that is meaningful. david jolly, i would talk about the gall, but it's the least of what we have seen. >> let's identify how perverse this is. he never says why. when democrats and joe biden and kamala harris say it, it's because democracy is on the ballot. donald trump will wreck the constitutional democracy. why is it the end of the

republic if donald trump loses? his voters refuse to accept the election? he unleashes violence in the street? why is it the end of the democracy? that's the question. >> finish the thought. as you may have noticed, he had a lot of trouble completing thoughts. for someone, michael steele, who likes to talk about people's mental thoughts, he wouldn't get there information. >> he can't stream together a complete sentence. more than one person has said that to me at the last few months. at the end of the day, everyone is focused on joe biden's speech pattern, and he has a stutter folks that he tries to control. what is donald trump's excuse? i'm telling you, he can't do it. it raises a number of flags for me, david, around the idea of

how people perceive these two individuals. at the end of the day, you're looking at donald trump and joe biden as men who are going to run the country for the next four years. >> that's right. >> within the body of voters, you're finding this phenomena that has been tagged or labeled double haters, people who hate both houses. how does that dynamic change? alexi raise the question of people possibly staying home. is that what we look at with the double haters? is there an opportunity to break into that a little bit, and to get them to hate one a little less than the other? what are we doing here? >> there is. that's a big concern. the first part of your question, i think, voters wrongly conflate age and fitness. both are old. where as joe biden's age been a limitation. to voters complaining, what are

you upset about? the peace or prosperity? where has his age limited either one? donald trump is fitness. he's as old as joe biden, but the question is fitness. somehow now voters have double haters, and where they move could decide the election. i will use this opportunity to take a swipe at no labels. their choice will be biden or trump or stay home or look at a third party, and what no labels has constructed could swing to donald trump for a couple of reasons. in the most likely scenario, they withhold the votes in the key states that then swing that state or secure it for donald trump. if they are ambitious enough and successful enough to win a state to win electoral votes to throw it to the house? donald trump becomes president, and the likely republican- flipped senate pick as republican vice president. that's where the double haters f they are entertained by the no labels movement, it's dangerous. >> we will talk about no labels

later in the show. i want to make sure we talk about the axios focused group from the swing voters among other things, blaming the gop for the failed border bill. voters for trump in 2016, biden in 2020, and the good news for democrats, alexi, it seems like the president's state of the union address helped reorient them if they are angry about inaction in washington, d.c., then they need to place that anger at the feet of the republicans, which would seem to me to offer democrats a pretty clear path forward, which is you have to be connecting the dots for these voters. you have to be helping them understand who in washington is holding up progress on a number of issues. >> i love the focus groups that axios does. i used to lead them when i was

with them. they will decide the elections. they don't have party loyalty, and they are incredibly volatile. what is important from the focus group, they say they understand the republicans and trump are the reason that the border crisis is not being fixed, they also say they trust trump more than biden to handle the border crisis, which is just part of this narrative that trump has baked in the cake since 2016 when he announced his campaign. folks still believe that he is somehow the tough guy on handling immigration because of the way he talks, and yet you look at his actions, and they simply don't match up because he knows he needs a political issue to campaign on. he has said explicitly that's the reason why republicans should oppose it. he needs something to continue to create a foil in addition to joe biden and the democrats. >> no appetite for actually fixing the problem. congressman jolly and alexi, you're joining us.

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former congressman david jolly and alexi mccammond back with us. the list of people not endorsing trump includes barr, mcmaster, tillson, and i think it's easy to gloss over this, but it's so unusual. >> historic. >> historic, yes. unprecedented. >> his own vice president said i can't support him. past living presidents. nominees including the late john mccain, no one who knows him will support him. that's significant. the question for me has been, look, everybody deserves grace in how they lead the republican party and how they oppose trump.

it's a journey. we are eight years into this now. you need to do more and say, so therefore, vote for joe biden. my question is do any of them break and appear at the democratic convention? liz cheney? i doubt it. most of them would never suggest voting for joe biden. imagine if the coalition led the republicans for biden coalition. it feels like a movement election because democracy is on the line, but the americans are not responding in that way. it will be the strategy of the coalition where every piece matters from progressives to main line democrats to moderates to soft performing republicans to persuadables. any part of the coalition could swing the election, and the republican leaders saying now is the time to vote for joe biden, and you don't have to be a democrat, but vote for joe biden, that could swing the election. >> my question, is there something that the biden campaign can be doing to bring

the republicans on board? is that a phone call? a gesture? is there something that can be done? >> it's all of that, and in fact, i think you have seen the president already making the effort on the heels of super tuesday, and on the heels of this very, very powerful speech at the state of the union, where he made the direct appeal, and his campaign is starting to do that. in fact at the gridiron dinner last night in washington, d.c., the president was out there telling the audience, those who worked with donald trump at the most senior levels of his administration believe he too dangerous, too selfish, and too extreme to lead the country again. we agree. while democrats, republicans, and independents they disagree on many issues, millions of americans are united in ensuring we stand up for the values and principles that america represents. alexi, i think it offers the president, to david's important

point, which i agree with 100%, that this idea of republicans like me, david, and others saying we are for biden because we are for the country. >> yeah. >> we have a disagreement on policy, and the president says that. we disagree on a lot of different things, but there's an opportunity for democrats, independents, and republicans to be rallied by the president, to really fight the fight, in a way that you are more united as opposed to say i have republicans running for me with the brand of republicans for biden. how do you see the narrative setting itself up? do you see the efforts to alicia's question about the campaign doing that and pushing the envelope with the voters who are gettable? >> i think the biden campaign is certainly not going to leave any voters on the table. they will go after anyone they think they can get.

it was surprising when the campaign account tweeted out dunking on asa hutchinson, someone you could work with and talk to. i'm constantly surprised -- >> did you think they corrected that? >> no the campaign is on line. that's the problem. the biden campaign is so on line, and always doing petty tweets and things to match trump's energy, and it's like, stop it, stop doing that, and be the way that you want to be online, offline, whatever, and focus on talking to folks, but i think the problem, and i wonder what you think or david jolly, how can you be republican and say i'm voting for biden and convince republican voters that you're actually republican? you know what i mean? >> well, depends in my view, you're not defined on being a republican. you bring the energy. i grew up in washington, d.c., that's a different republican from someone who grew up in

south carolina and someone who grew up in florida, and the national chairman, i always made the case very clearly as a republican, you bring that energy to the table. i don't walk your walk or know your story, but you put the hat on that says i'm gop, and i'm down with that. i'm connected to that because the core values that connected david and me, even though we grew up in different parts of the country are the same, individual responsibility, opportunity, limited government, a strong national defense, and supporting our allies, and free markets, free enterprise, and those things that are very resonant with a lot of americans out there. i don't -- i can make the case as a republican to my fellow republicans, if i see a president like joe biden who touches on some of those things, and while i may disagree with him on other things, but at the core, given the moment we are in, alexi, and david i would love to get

your view on this, but there's something bigger than a policy or if i'm a republican or democrat. the most important thing is to recognize i'm an american. that to me is a bigger value. >> i agree, michael, and alexi, i think you're on point. republicans have painted themselves in a corner. nikki haley said joe biden is more dangerous than donald trump. she says it without justification. how do you say i'm a republican, vote for me in four years? in terms of biden reaching soft republican voters, i think the voters they will more likely get are the soft republicans who vote for biden because of reproductive freedom than the antitrump movement, and i think that's where you will see the biden camp put their resources. >> stay with us. we have more we want to talk about. as david mentioned earlier, we need to talk about another factor affecting the election.

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that's the side piece. despite having no clue who will run on the unity ticket, they have identified a committee to identify the candidates. alexi and david are back with us. >> you made the argument of why it's dangerous, but they seem like they are fracturing internally, the headline michael was leading, there's folks inside of no labels who know it's not a great idea. >> the strategy was never going to work, and i told the leadership of no labels two years ago it was not going to work. the american voters said they would like more choices and more parties, more independents than nationals or republicans, and no labels tried to respond to that, but the answer is to build the infrastructure in states not winning a presidential ticket that will not win. it's also incredibly expensive. the $80 million they needed to raise was to get ballot access,

not to fund a candidate. can a candidate come on and raise another $100 million? certainly does not look like it. that's the frustration you're seeing. at this point, the greater influence, and this is a little bit insulting to the no labels movement given all of the work they moved into this. the greater influence is likely rfk jr. running on the vaccine issue. it will move people. the vaccine issue if rfk jr. runs on that. >> help me understand why it's resinate? it's framed as parental choice? >> it's a freedom issue. it's why ron desantis won in '19. there was such anger and people misunderstanding the role of the government in public health and the need for vaccine and vaccine mandates in some situations, but if freedom is a powerful drug, and if the issue of vaccines and covid is framed as freedom, you draw a

significant number. rfk jr. interestingly if he runs on the vaccine is more likely to draw from donald trump than joe biden. we will see where that one goes. >> michael? >> yeah. >> i was going -- >> yeah, i was going to say they think picking up where david left off, alexi, the idea that no labels, you know, has a strategy and plan. we had dr. ben schavis a few weeks ago saying, quickly summing it up, no labels is talking with exceptional leaders. are you hearing who the exceptional leaders are out there on the street as you are covering the beat on the hill and around d.c.? >> i don't think anyone will eventually know who they are. especially after joe manchin decided not to run. he was the man that everyone thought would be the leading contender or one of them. there's no one who is going to be compelling enough unless someone like nikki haley decided to join the ticket,

there's no one who will inspire americans enough to win outright, and also no labels is probably relatively unknown across the country. obviously in d.c. we know them in and out, but i think that people are going to be like who is this? what is going on, and finally a bipartisan unity ticket is good in theory or sounds good, but i don't know who wants that. maybe some swing voters, but i don't think people are looking for a split ticket at the moment of president and vice president. >> 17 states, and there are 50 you have to have on the ballot. how do you run in 17 states in the general election? i don't know, but you know, it's a new day. >> you are always bringing us back to the math. before we go, you have biden allies forming a new group to attack the third party candidates. they are preparing for it as a real possibility and understand they need to go after it. >> david jolly, as always,

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place. be sure to follow the show on social media @theweekendmsnbc. later today. raphael warnock is on politics nation to talk about all things georgia from the case against trump to both parties fighting for black voters. in the meantime, al i velshi now. good morning. >> i was enjoying the conversation at the end about the third parties and no labels and the concept of vaccines. we forgot about the fight, but for a lot of americans, it's live. we talk so much about the inherent threats to democracy, but some people decision on that ballot on november in november for the president. based on other things that they think about. and it's volatile to hear that might be influential vaccines and the government's role may